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speoha in eBay Copyright Theft
speoha of Vidor, Texas, United States stole our Mexican 50 Pesos Photograph to use on eBay, without our permission, to try sell his own coins, and failed to mention the coin in the photograph was not one of the coins he owned, if any. Totally dishonest.
Image theft is endemic on eBay, and most sellers appear not to care whether their buyers are deceived.
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eBay Copyright Thieves
Many eBay vendors use our coin photographs to sell inferior quality coins on eBay. These eBay members are dishonest and should be avoided.
We believe eBay profits from IP rights infringements (copyright theft), and does so knowingly, only removing infringing items reluctantly, if at all.
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Mexican 50 Gold Peso Centenarios Rare Collector Coin
Mexican 50 Gold Peso Centenarios
Each Mexican 50 Peso contains 1.2057oz of gold. In comparison to other
coins the Mexican 50 Peso is much larger,
with a diameter of 37.08mm and a thickness of 2.69mm.
This will make a fantastic addition to your collection!
Gold is and will always be The Secure Investment.
As Currency Value drops Gold Prices will sky rocket
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SPEOHA COIN GUIDE
"What is an un-circulated coin?"
Uncirculated means a coin has not had any wear, such as the wear a coin might experience when it is used in commerce. Handling a coin, as well as improperly storing a coin, can result in wear on the surface of the coin. This wear, even if very minor, will cause a coin to no longer grade uncirculated.
"Bag Marks"
When coins are minted they often bump into each other and receive small nicks and abrasion marks during the production process. These marks also occur as coins are transported in large canvas bags. These marks, sometimes called "bag marks", are more noticeable on larger coins, such as half dollars and dollars. Typical "bag marks" do not keep a coin from grading uncirculated. However, they can be an indicator of how high of a grade the un-circulated coin might receive.
Current accepted grading standards provide for a range of uncirculated grades, from the grade of MS-60 to MS-70. MS60 would be a lower grade (yet still) un-circulated coin with normal bag marks for that type of coin. Anything below MS-60 would not be considered uncirculated. MS70 would be the perfect "ideal" coin. Some coins are rare in grades MS65 to MS70, and even unheard of in MS70 grade. (The attribute "MS" stands for "mint state".)
An uncirculated coin may show tarnish, toning, spotting, or discoloration and still remain in uncirculated condition. Experts recommend you "never clean a tarnished coin", because most cleaning will cause wear on a coin, and thus lower its grade (and often its value).
What's a proof coin?
A newly minted proof coin is also Un-circulated, however it is the way it is made that causes a difference in appearance and qualifies it as a "proof". To understand this, let's look at how coins are made. Coins are produced when two dies strike a blank piece of metal with tremendous force. One die is engraved with the front (obverse) design for the coin. The other die has the back (reverse) coin design on it.
A proof coin is made with a specially polished and treated die!
By treating the die in a special way, the coins it produces have a different appearance. Modern technology allows the high points on the coin design to be acid treated (on the die). The background (field) design of the coin die is polished, resulting in a mirror-like look on the coin it strikes. This gives the finished coin a frosted look (frosting) on the raise parts of the design, with a mirror like finish on the background. This contrasting finish is often called "cameo". (See picture above.) On some older coins a cameo appearance is quite rare. The attribute "CAM", when added to a coin's description, means cameo appearance. "DCAM" means deep cameo, and indicates the cameo appearance is strong and easy to observe.
Proof coins are struck twice, or more!
Not only are proofs made using specially treated dies, each coin is struck two or more times by the coin die. By striking it more than once the metal is forced into all the crevices of the die, thereby giving a very fine detail to the image on the coin. This fine detail does not appear on some non-proof coins.
Grading proofs
Today's grading of proofs is similar to the grades used for uncirculated coins. The attribute "PR" or "PF" stands for "proof", and is used instead of the MS (mint state) to indicate a proof coin. Proofs (that are also un-circulated) will be graded PR 60 to PR70, with PR70 being rare or nonexistent in some cases. Because a proof coin can be mishandled or receive wear by cleaning or handling, proof grades can extend below PR 60. Example, a PR50 grade proof coin, is one that has had a touch of wear on the high points of the coin. Like uncirculated coins, proofs can experience toning, tarnish or darkening.
Rarity and the Cost of Proofs
Because of the extra effort, time, labor and production costs in making a proof coin, the respective government mints often sell them at higher prices. In many instances the production of proof coins is limited. The end result is that usually, but not always, a proof coin of the same date will be more expensive than a non-proof uncirculated.
For most United States gold and silver coins, the proofs have the same amount of precious metal in them as non-proof uncirculated coins.
Mint Marks on Coins
Often U.S. proof and uncirculated coins will have a letter (mint mark) on the coin, indicating which United States government mint produced it. Sometimes governments will make proof coins at a different mint than the regular (circulation strike) coins. The US government has minted coins at these mints in the past:
P - Philadelphia *
S - San Francisco
W - West Point
D - Denver
D - also used for Dahlonega GA mint on old gold coins **
CC - Carson City (old silver coins) **
C - Charlotte NC mint - on old gold coins **
O - New Orleans **
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Seller ID | Item Number | Date | Description | Price
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speoha | 280591177665 | 18th Nov 2010 | Mexican 50 Gold Peso Centenarios Rare Collector Coin | $2,000.00
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What's Wrong?
We invest a great deal of time, effort, and cost into creating some of the best photographic coin and gold bar images on the internet. We strongly object when lazy and dishonest people decide to use them without a by your leave or thanks, doing so in competition with us.
Copyright theft is dishonest. We recommend you avoid doing business with dishonest dealers.
It is always possible, even likely, that sellers who steal photographs do not own a similar bar, and have the intention to totally defraud potential buyers.
The vendor is not only cheating us by stealing our copyright images, he is fraudulently or ignorantly misleading and deceiving all potential buyers. Gaining pecuniary advantage by deception is the definition of fraud.
Price
The seller was asking for a Buy It Now price of $2,000.00.
Even without after eBay's greedy 10% selling fees, and possible PayPal charges, the seller would almost certainly have been much better off selling the coins to us, instead of stealing our photographs.
eBay Guilty of Negligence or Complicity
We will be reporting this example of copyright abuse using our standard Statutory Declaration via the eBay VeRO programme, and wait to see if they chose to action or ignore our report. We look forward to taking legal action against eBay for their negligence and / or complicity if they fail to take down the offending material promptly.
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