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Bid or Buy Z.A. Members & Copyright Theft
Many auction site members, including dealers continually infringe our IP (Intellectual Property) rights by using our copyright images. It's usually eBay, because they are the biggest, but other sites are not immune from the plague. We invest considerable time and money in our photographs, and do not appreciate their misappropriation by Bid or Buy Z.A. (BoB) members or others, especially when they are using our effort to compete with us.
BellCoin, of Cape Town, South Africa, stole our 2009 Gold Krugerrand photograph to use on BoB, and omitted to tell buyers that the image was not of the coin he was selling. Totally dishonest!

Sample Listing

2009 1 OUNCE PROOF KRUGERRAND!! KILLER PRICE!
FIRST ON BOB 2009 PROOF KRUGERRAND
PURE 22 CARAT GOLD STUNNING INVESTMENT
AND GOLD IS GOING UP AND UP.
WORTH MUCH MUCH MORE THAN A NORMAL KRUGERRAND!
WITH SA MINT BOX AND COA
Feel free to ask a question or make an offer!!!
PRICE REDUCED TO SELL DONT WASTE TIME!!!!
PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS IS A GENERIC INTERNET IMAGE!

What's Wrong?
We invest a great deal of time, effort, and cost into creating some of the best photographic coin images on the internet. We strongly object when lazy and dishonest people decide to use them without a by your leave or thanks, doing so in competition with us.
Copyright theft is dishonest. We recommend you avoid doing business with dishonest dealers.
This particular BoB seller not only stole our image of the reverse of a 2009 Gold Krugerrand, he used it to sell his own coin on BoB. He did not seem to think it was worth mentioning to potential buyers that the high quality photographs of near mint condition coins were not his own photographs, and not the same coins as he was offering for sale. This is almost certainly illegal in the UK under the Trade Description Act, although it appears to happen on a daily basis on internet auction sites including BoB.
It's possible he is ignorant of such fine points, or just plain ignorant.

It is always possible, even likely, that sellers who steal photographs do not own a similar coin, and have the intention to totally defraud potential buyers.
The vendor is not only cheating us by stealing our copyright images, he is fraudulently or ignorantly misleading and deceiving all potential buyers. Gaining pecuniary advantage by deception is the definition of fraud.
He also states the images to be GENERIC INTERNET IMAGE, the ignorant crook!

Feedback
BoB uses a members feedback system similar to that used by eBay. When we created this page bellcoinbidorbuyza had a feedback of 376, with 99.74% positive according to Bid or Buy.

Price
The seller was asking a starting price of ZAR 13,000 (about £1,004) for his coin!
It sounds expensive to us, so this dealer is not only lazy and dishonest, but greedy too!

Copyright Notice
Please see our "Copyright" page for further information.

Copyright Thieves on Bid or Buy Z.A.
We already have a page naming and shaming dealers using our images without permission. It's time we did the same for Bid or Buy Z.A., although if we include them all, this could be a very long page.
Seller IDItem NumberDateDescriptionPrice
BELLCOIN1479244321st Aug 20092009 1 OUNCE PROOF KRUGERRAND!! KILLER PRICE! R 13,000

Notes
Seller ID. There is nothing to stop Bid or Buy Z.A. members changing their "Seller ID", or opening a new account.
Item Number. We may have shown only one out of many similar items.
Date = End date or date added to this page if item still current.
Description = Description as used by the seller as his item title.
Price = Final selling price if known, otherwise "Current Price", or "Starting bid".

eBay Index

Alphabetical Listing of Other Copyright Theft Sites

Other Web Sites
All comments about copyright also cover content of all our other websites including, but not limited to:-

BellCoins Proof Krugerrand Bid or Buy Auction Listing
BellCoins Proof Krugerrand Bid or Buy Auction Listing

Our 2004 Proof Krugerrand Obverse Image
Our 2004 Proof Krugerrand Obverse Image

Our 2009 Krugerrand Reverse Image
Our 2009 Krugerrand Reverse Image

 


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