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7lee23 in eBay Copyright Theft
7lee23 of Hertfordshire, United Kingdom, stole our Quarter Kilo Cast Bank Leu Gold Bullion Bar photograph to use on eBay, and tried to tell buyers it was not the same bar he was selling, and which he had bought from one of our competitors. Totally dishonest.

High eBay Feedback is No Guarantee of Integrity or Honesty
When we wrote this page, this eBay member's feedback was 123 with 100% positive, according to eBay.

eBay Copyright Thieves
Many eBay vendors use our coin photographs to sell inferior quality coins on eBay. These eBay members are dishonest and should be avoided.
We believe eBay profits from IP rights infringements (copyright theft), and does so knowingly, only removing infringing items reluctantly, if at all.

Sample Listing

250 gram Gold bullion investment low price
Hi im (sic) selling this 250 gram gold bar i brought (sic) fromATS (sic) bullion when the rice (sic) was $900. Now i think its time to cash in on the bar. theres (sic) no reserve just a low starting bid .
The future is excellent for gold Hung (sic) parliment (sic) , mexico (sic) gold oil leak will just push oil price up on all your daily comodities (sic) so its (sic) a very safe bet to hedge against inflation
so grab a bargain , ask me any question if unsure
On 10-May-10 at 11:17:11 BST, seller added the following information:
Hi im selling this 250 gram gold bar i brought fromATS bullion when the price was $900.an ounce so Now i think its time to cash in on the bar. theres no reserve just a low starting bid .
The future is excellent for gold Hung parliment, mexico gold oil leak will just push oil price up on all your daily comodities so its a very safe bet to hedge against inflation
This bar can easily sell for over £6000 these days
so grab a bargain , ask me any question if unsure t

Seller IDItem NumberDateDescriptionPrice
7lee2317048377948410th May 2010250 gram Gold bullion investment low price£4900
7lee2317048514193312th May 2010250 gram Gold bullion investment low price£1000
7lee2317048642636516th May 201050 gram Gold bullion investment low price£821

What's Wrong?
We invest a great deal of time, effort, and cost into creating some of the best photographic coin and gold bar images on the internet. We strongly object when lazy and dishonest people decide to use them without a by your leave or thanks, doing so in competition with us.
Copyright theft is dishonest. We recommend you avoid doing business with dishonest dealers.
This particular eBay seller not only stole our high quality Quarter Kilo (250 Grams) Cast Bank Leu Gold Bullion Bar Photograph, he used them to try to sell "his" own gold bar on eBay. He did not mention to potential buyers that the high quality photographs of the coin were not his own photographs.
It's possible he is ignorant of such fine points, or just plain ignorant.
It is always possible, even likely, that sellers who steal photographs do not own a similar item, and have the intention to totally defraud potential buyers.
The vendor is not only cheating us by stealing our copyright images, he is fraudulently or ignorantly misleading and deceiving all potential buyers. Gaining pecuniary advantage by deception is the definition of fraud.

One Day Sale - Dodgy?
eBay have a link on their site about when to use a 1 day listing, we think it should say when you have nicked the stuff, and are trying to fence it quickly before the police see it and come round to your house.
While our thoughts and comments about this may be slightly facetious, there remains much more than a grain of truth in them. We would always be very suspicious of one day listings.
In this case, we can be quite certain that 7lee23 has not got this bar, and probably does not own a gold bar at all, we can safely state that we believe he is a fraudster, crook, cheat, but hey that's eBay for you!
Anybody thinking of bidding on this and hoping to get a bargain will probably get ripped off and lose all their money, and probably deserve it for being so greedy.

More Evidence
We, and our competitors buy and sell gold bullion, including quarter kilo gold bars, at very competitive prices. The vendor could get very lose to intrinsic value, £6,700 at time of writing, and a buyer could get one for a small premium, without taking any risks buying from obvious crooks on eBay.
We just noticed that 7lee23 sold the same bar two days ago for £4,900!
It is beyond belief that he or anybody would be so stupid as to sell for that price. It is also almost beyond belief that any buyers are stupid enough to believe they may obtain such a bargain. Any intelligence, instinct or any other kind of sense in their head should scream at them not to go ahead.
As Phineas T Barnum rightly observed "there's a sucker born every minute".

Price
The seller was asking a starting price of £1,000.

eBay Feedback Profile Page - 16th May 2010
7lee23 ( 121) Not a registered user
Feedback / ItemFrom / Price>Date/Time
AVOID THIS SELLER, NO GOLD FOR SALE & THEN TAKES MONEY & RUNS CON!
250 gram Gold bullion investment low price
Buyer: vpharm (339)
(#170486245448) £4,700.00
18-May-10 00:01
View Item
DISHONEST SELLER...SED HE SOLD ITEM ...FAKER SCAMMER AVOID AT ALL COSTS
50 gram Gold bullion investment low price (#170486426365)
Buyer: buyer180603 (350)
£821.00
16-May-10 14:39
View Item
didnt buy mutual agreement both partys satisfided
250 gram Gold bullion investment low price (#170483779484)
Buyer: 8041sharonc (188)
£4,900.00
12-May-10 22:56
View Item

Take it Easy & Make it Easy
eBay appears to make everything too easy for crooks. The eBay system facilitates anonymity, and discourages sellers from publishing their contact details on their sale listings. To some extent this is understandable as buyers and sellers could easily collude to avoid eBay's selling fees of up to 10% plus PayPal fees of up to 4.9%.
It also make it difficult for interested observers to warn potential buyers about fraud suspicions. Their
"Contact Member" feature has been changed so others members cannot directly contact buyers unless they have recent bidding history between them.
We did try to contact two of the other buyers to warn them. this may be against eBay rules, but we think the prevention of crime (fraud) is a public duty, and while we do not see why we should act as unpaid detectives on behalf of eBay and its buying members, it is hard to watch from the sidelines and observe innocent buyers get cheated and conned. It is also frustrating that we observe so much dishonesty and fraud on eBay, and that eBay appear very happy for it to continue, and for them to make money from it.
To some extent, buyers should be more wary. If they have lost money, much of it is through their own greed.
Our standard IP infringement reports to eBay contain a warning that copyright infringement may tend to indicate fraud, but eBay continually ignore this.

eBay Guilty of Negligence or Complicity
We will be reporting this example of copyright abuse using our standard Statutory Declaration via the eBay VeRO programme, and wait to see if they chose to action or ignore our report. We look forward to taking legal action against eBay for their negligence and / or complicity if they fail to take down the offending material promptly.
We should probably delay reporting this item until a buyer has sent some money. This may sound cynical of us, but if enough greedy buyers got conned, they might kick up enough fuss, go to the media, and get eBay the publicity it deserves. It is not our job to act as unpaid policemen for eBay.

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We already have a page naming and shaming dealers using our images without permission. It's time we did the same for eBay, although if we include them all, this could be a very long page.

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7lee23 eBay Listing Using our Quarter Kilo Cast Bank Leu Gold Bullion Bar Photograph
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