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ilenedovervip in eBay Copyright Theft
ilenedovervip of London, Surrey, United Kingdom, stole our 1980 & 1982 Gold 4 Coin Sovereign Boxed Proof Sets Photographs to use on eBay, and failed to tell buyers they were not the same coin sets he was selling. Totally dishonest.
Image theft is endemic on eBay, and most sellers appear not to care whether their buyers are deceived.
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When we wrote this page, this eBay member's feedback was 407 with 100% positive, according to eBay.
eBay Copyright Thieves
Many eBay vendors use our coin photographs to sell inferior quality coins on eBay. These eBay members are dishonest and should be avoided.
We believe eBay profits from IP rights infringements (copyright theft), and does so knowingly, only removing infringing items reluctantly, if at all.
Sample Listing
Elizabeth I 1982 4 Coin Gold Proof Set £5-1/2 Sov. FDC
Elizabeth I 1980 4 Coin Gold Proof Set £5-1/2 Sov. FDC
Elizabeth II. 1952-present. 1980 4 Coin Gold Proof Set £5-1/2 Sov. FDC in green case of issue with Certificate of Authenticity.
£5 Weight 39.9 grams Contains 1.177 Troy Oz Gold
£2 Weight 15.96 grams Contains 0.4708 of 1 Troy Oz Gold
Sovereign Weight 7.98 grams Contains 0.2354 of 1 Troy Oz Gold
Half Sovereign Weight 3.99 grams Contains 0.1177 of 1 Troy Oz Gold
The coins are in an FDC condition as issued with only £10,00 sets issued. This was the first gold coin proof set time since 1937
A set is for sale for £1,849 see - /1980british4coingoldset.php
Another for £1,950 see - http://www.goldline.co.uk/collectorCoins.jsp?coinId=51
I am selling these on behalf of my father-in-law. See the other coins. I will combine postage and give discounts. Normally I will despatch within a day, if I can get the coins from the safe deposit in time to catch the last post. If not the coin(s) will be despatched the next day.
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Seller ID | Item Number | Date | Description | Price
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ilenedovervip | 250671727055 | 25th Jul 2010 | Elizabeth I 1980 4 Coin Gold Proof Set £5-1/2 Sov. FDC | £1600
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ilenedovervip | 250671731976 | 25th Jul 2010 | Elizabeth I 1982 4 Coin Gold Proof Set £5-1/2 Sov. FDC | £1750
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What's Wrong?
We invest a great deal of time, effort, and cost into creating some of the best photographic coin and gold bar images on the internet. We strongly object when lazy and dishonest people decide to use them without a by your leave or thanks, doing so in competition with us.
Copyright theft is dishonest. We recommend you avoid doing business with dishonest dealers.
It is always possible, even likely, that sellers who steal photographs do not own a similar coin, and have the intention to totally defraud potential buyers.
The vendor is not only cheating us by stealing our copyright images, he is fraudulently or ignorantly misleading and deceiving all potential buyers. Gaining pecuniary advantage by deception is the definition of fraud.
Price
The seller was asking a starting price of £1600 and £1750 for his listings.
Whatever the item "sells" for, after eBay's greedy 10% selling fees, and possible PayPal charges, the seller may have been much better off selling the coins to us, instead of stealing our photographs.
He also stated the prices we ask for similar sets on our web pages, but got it wrong, because our prices fluctuate constantly in line with gold bullion prices.
Spell Checker
Naturally, we checked some of ilenedovervip's other items for sale, because sometimes copyright cheats steal dozens of photographs. Although so far he has not stolen any more of our pictures, some of his spellings made us smile:
1953 ELZABETH (sic) 2 CORONATION PROOF COIN SET (CROWN -1/4d)
1981 ELZABETH II PROOFSovereign (sic) FDC (ein Deutsche doppelgangerword?)
I originally listed the set as proof, but after discussing it with someone who knows about Victorian coinage, this is a specimen set. My apologies to those who I may have mislead.
eBay Guilty of Negligence or Complicity
We will be reporting this example of copyright abuse using our standard Statutory Declaration via the eBay VeRO programme, and wait to see if they chose to action or ignore our report. We look forward to taking legal action against eBay for their negligence and / or complicity if they fail to take down the offending material promptly.
We should probably delay reporting this item until a buyer has sent some money. This may sound cynical of us, but if enough greedy buyers got conned, they might kick up enough fuss, go to the media, and get eBay the publicity it deserves. It is not our job to act as unpaid policemen for eBay.
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