Bid or Buy Z.A. Members & Copyright Theft
Many auction site members, including dealers continually infringe our IP (Intellectual Property) rights by using our copyright images. It's usually eBay, because they are the biggest, but other sites are not immune from the plague. We invest considerable time and money in our photographs, and do not appreciate their misappropriation by Bid or Buy Z.A. (BoB) members or others, especially when they are using our effort to compete with us.
pta_collectors, of Pretoria / Tshwane, South Africa, stole our 2009 Gold Krugerrand photograph to use on BoB, and omitted to tell buyers that the image was not of the coin he was selling. Totally dishonest!
Sample Listing
Krugerrand Coins For Sale at R12 000 each.
Good Day
I am selling full ounce Krugerrand Coins for only R12 000 each. Please contact me should you require further information.
Regards
Renier
Quantity Available
100
Sellers Product Code
IFLKC012
What's Wrong?
We invest a great deal of time, effort, and cost into creating some of the best photographic coin images on the internet. We strongly object when lazy and dishonest people decide to use them without a by your leave or thanks, doing so in competition with us.
Copyright theft is dishonest. We recommend you avoid doing business with dishonest dealers.
This particular BoB seller not only stole our image of the both obverse and reverse of a 1974 Gold Krugerrand, he used it to try to sell his own coins on BoB. He did not seem to think it was worth mentioning to potential buyers that the high quality photographs of near mint condition coins were not his own photographs, and not the same coins as he was offering for sale. This is dishonest and almost certainly illegal, although it appears to happen on a daily basis on internet auction sites including BoB.
It's possible he is ignorant of such fine points, or just plain ignorant.
As it happens, IFL did not steal the image directly from our own websites, but indirectly, probably from a site with the grand sounding title Krugerrand Gold Coins (krugerrandgoldcoins.com), although they in turn may have stolen it from yet another site.
It is always possible, even likely, that sellers who steal photographs do not own a similar coin, and have the intention to totally defraud potential buyers.
The vendor is not only cheating us by stealing our copyright images, he is fraudulently or ignorantly misleading and deceiving all potential buyers. Gaining pecuniary advantage by deception is the definition of fraud.
Feedback
BoB uses a members feedback system similar to that used by eBay. When we created this page IFL
had no feedback (0), according to Bid or Buy.
Price
The seller was asking a starting price of ZAR 12,000 each for his coins!
It sounds expensive to us, so this dealer is not only lazy and dishonest, but greedy too!
He also claimed he had 100 available, which would be 1.2 million rands worth, and as he had 2 near identical listings, 2.4 million rands worth. We don't believe him. One common problem with internet auction and sale listing sites is the lack of checks on new and existing members, and the anonymity these sites provide for all sorts of crooks and conmen.
Copyright Notice
Please see our "Copyright" page for further information.
Copyright Thieves on Bid or Buy Z.A.
We already have a page naming and shaming dealers using our images without permission. It's time we did the same for Bid or Buy Z.A., although if we include them all, this could be a very long page.
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Seller ID | Item Number | Date | Description | Price
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IFL | 19527334/ | 10th Mar 2010 | Krugerrand Coins For Sale at R12 000 each.
| R 12,000
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IFL | 19585474/ | 10th Mar 2010 | Krugerrand Coins For Sale at R12 000 each.
| R 12,000
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Notes
Seller ID. There is nothing to stop Bid or Buy Z.A. members changing their "Seller ID", or opening a new account.
Item Number. We may have shown only one out of many similar items.
Date = End date or date added to this page if item still current.
Description = Description as used by the seller as his item title.
Price = Final selling price if known, otherwise "Current Price", or "Starting bid".
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