eBay Cheats & Copyright Thieves
craig69jojo in eBay Copyright Theft
craig69jojo of Tiverton, Devon, United Kingdom, stole our 2008 Half Sovereign Photographs to use on eBay, and used it to try sell his own coin, but failed to tell buyers it was not the same coin as in the photograph. Totally dishonest.
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When we wrote this page, this eBay member's feedback was 117; with 100% positive according to eBay.
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Seller ID | Item Number | Date | Description | Price
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dritree | 250503909974 | 29th Sep 2009 | 2008 Half Sovereign in George & the Dragon Gift Sleeve | £49.99
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dritree | 250503908258 | 30th Sep 2009 | 2008 Half Sovereign in George & the Dragon Gift Sleeve | £49.99
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Sample Listing
2008 Half Sovereign in George & the Dragon Gift Sleeve
2008 Half Sovereign
presented in
George & the Dragon Gift Sleeve
Unopened, sleeve still in original plastic bag
22 Carat Gold.
Weight 3.99gms.
Diameter 19.3mm.
What's Wrong?
We invest a great deal of time, effort, and cost into creating some of the best Photographic coin images on the internet. We strongly object when lazy and dishonest people decide to use them without a by your leave or thanks, doing so in competition with us.
Copyright theft is dishonest. We recommend you avoid doing business with dishonest dealers.
This particular eBay seller not only stole our images of the reverse of a 2008 Half Sovereign, he used them to try sell his own coin on eBay, as his own coins, twice.
He did not tell buyers it was not the same coin as he was hawking, but what if he doesn't even own any gold coins?
In actual fact, the Royal Mint recut the dies for the 2008 sovereigns and half sovereigns, and do not look like the coin shown in our photograph. Our picture was of an earlier date full sovereign, which we had edited in Photoshop to use in our advance announcements for the 2008 sovereigns during late 2007. As soon as we got delivery of the actual coins, we photographed a sample coin, and published it on our website, pointing out the differences. The difference between us and eBay sellers is that we try to fully inform and educate our customers, eBay sellers try to deceive, cheat and bamboozle them.
It's possible he is ignorant of such fine points, or just plain ignorant.
It is always possible, even likely, that sellers who steal photographs do not own a similar coin, and have the intention to totally defraud potential buyers.
The vendor is not only cheating us by stealing our copyright images, he is fraudulently or ignorantly misleading and deceiving all potential buyers. Gaining pecuniary advantage by deception is the definition of fraud.
Sadly, many eBay buyers are greedy or stupid, and allow themselves to be conned by sellers like this.
Price
The seller was asking a starting price of £44.99 for each of his coins.
If that's all they sell for, he will be losing money, as we would have paid him more. There would be much more sensible starting prices.
He would probably have got more by selling to us when eBay's new 10% selling fees are taken into account, even ignoring PayPal fees, or spending it, although many eBay buyers do overpay for gold bullion, compared with our own prices for similar or better gold bullion bars.
Similarly, buyers may be better off dealing direct with a proper, well-established, dealer, such as us, and we could offer a better selection!
The first of his coins "sold" for £76.10; so after eBay fees, he would get less than £68.50; we would definitely have paid him more, so he is not only dishonest, but rather stupid!
eBay Guilty of Negligence or Complicity
We will be reporting this example of copyright abuse using our standard Statutory Declaration via the eBay VeRO programme, and wait to see if they chose to action or ignore our report. We look forward to taking legal action against eBay for their negligence and / or complicity if they fail to take down the offending material promptly.
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